http://www.e-m8.org/2008/11/the-merits-of-post-secondary-education/ Discovering purpose through engaging in business, exploring the disciplines required for purposeful business. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:50:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 http://www.e-m8.org/2008/11/the-merits-of-post-secondary-education/comment-page-1/#comment-88 Oleg Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:34:20 +0000 http://www.e-m8.org/?p=173#comment-88 1. I have both took and taught classes both online and in person. Online is often a lot harder in the traditional format. But if it was project based. If you studied reverse engineering by actually reverse engineering on an actual project for an actual customer, you would sure learn a lot, online or in person (realistically it would be a blend of the two anyways). 2. You are exactly right, the counselor should be the expert coach, who has many years of exerience in a particular field. They should be able to act as the instructor, but also have enough wisdom to point the student to others who are more expert in the specific aspects of the course of study. 1. I have both took and taught classes both online and in person. Online is often a lot harder in the traditional format. But if it was project based. If you studied reverse engineering by actually reverse engineering on an actual project for an actual customer, you would sure learn a lot, online or in person (realistically it would be a blend of the two anyways).
2. You are exactly right, the counselor should be the expert coach, who has many years of exerience in a particular field. They should be able to act as the instructor, but also have enough wisdom to point the student to others who are more expert in the specific aspects of the course of study.

]]> http://www.e-m8.org/2008/11/the-merits-of-post-secondary-education/comment-page-1/#comment-86 TurboBorland Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:22:07 +0000 http://www.e-m8.org/?p=173#comment-86 2.) Counselors need to know the subject in which their students are learning. I went to a specialized private school and the people working with the students to help create a schedule, pick classes, get job help, and etc. did not know anything about what the students were going for. This would be very difficult when I would try to explain to one of these counselors that I wanted to learn more about reverse engineering with Linux and they give me a blank stare. If I am going to ask for help in my degree, I expect full well that the people who are going to help me plan my educational career knows exactly what I am going for and what skills the current job market is looking for. If it changes, I expect them to also call me into their office and tell me about this change and what I can do to move fluently with this change. I also expect a meeting at least once a month with these counselors to help direct me, seeing if the classes I am taking are actually helping, and etc. 2.) Counselors need to know the subject in which their students are learning. I went to a specialized private school and the people working with the students to help create a schedule, pick classes, get job help, and etc. did not know anything about what the students were going for. This would be very difficult when I would try to explain to one of these counselors that I wanted to learn more about reverse engineering with Linux and they give me a blank stare. If I am going to ask for help in my degree, I expect full well that the people who are going to help me plan my educational career knows exactly what I am going for and what skills the current job market is looking for. If it changes, I expect them to also call me into their office and tell me about this change and what I can do to move fluently with this change. I also expect a meeting at least once a month with these counselors to help direct me, seeing if the classes I am taking are actually helping, and etc.

]]> http://www.e-m8.org/2008/11/the-merits-of-post-secondary-education/comment-page-1/#comment-85 TurboBorland Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:10:48 +0000 http://www.e-m8.org/?p=173#comment-85 I like the ideas presented in this article. I believe that education is our future, but a future that is looking rather dim. With the rapidly rising costs of college and my recent college experience, sadly, greatly below expectations of actual learning, post secondary education is looking like a star. We can still reach it, but it is millions of miles away. 1.) Online classes are the way to go. Instructors that know what they are doing, but are in the field right now doing just that, can take a couple of hours to teach if they so felt like doing so. This is what I experienced the most from college, but it was not as good as it sounds. The instructors were usually really busy. There was no chatroom system where you could go and talk to your instructor if you wanted. The instructors were also usually busy with their own jobs. So the only real way to contact them was through email, which was a flip of the coin as to how fast the instructor would get back to you and how well they could explain the answer in one email. What we need are teachers who are actually willing to teach and can give a couple hours of their time to go online (chatroom built-in to school CMS) and give lectures, answer questions, and etc. It would be up to the teacher how to use the chatroom, but as long as the student can interact with the teacher in some way that is immediate (not like playing email tag) than we can make online experiences much more enjoyable and educational to the student(s). I like the ideas presented in this article.
I believe that education is our future, but a future that is looking rather dim. With the rapidly rising costs of college and my recent college experience, sadly, greatly below expectations of actual learning, post secondary education is looking like a star. We can still reach it, but it is millions of miles away.
1.) Online classes are the way to go. Instructors that know what they are doing, but are in the field right now doing just that, can take a couple of hours to teach if they so felt like doing so. This is what I experienced the most from college, but it was not as good as it sounds. The instructors were usually really busy. There was no chatroom system where you could go and talk to your instructor if you wanted. The instructors were also usually busy with their own jobs. So the only real way to contact them was through email, which was a flip of the coin as to how fast the instructor would get back to you and how well they could explain the answer in one email.
What we need are teachers who are actually willing to teach and can give a couple hours of their time to go online (chatroom built-in to school CMS) and give lectures, answer questions, and etc. It would be up to the teacher how to use the chatroom, but as long as the student can interact with the teacher in some way that is immediate (not like playing email tag) than we can make online experiences much more enjoyable and educational to the student(s).

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